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Post by Lizziekins on Sept 10, 2008 15:28:02 GMT
can someone explain to me about routers please? I understand that I can plug my PC and 360 into one and then not have to worry about unplugging bits when I want to use one or the other. I've been looking at routers and I've come across all blonde (no offence blondies!  ). They all seem to be wireless - does this mean I now have to invest in wireless adapters for my PC and 360? I'm old fashioned the sense that everything is wired. Is there something I can just plug my various ethernet cables and be good to go. Grazie miei amici |
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Post by o R 0 G U E o on Sept 10, 2008 15:56:36 GMT
Most wireless routers nowadays also have 4 ethernet sockets on too.
The router I use is a Netgear DG834PN. It is ADSL2 compatible and has 4 ethernet sockets and a separate connection for the ADSL port. You can use either wired or wireless connections with it or both.
The only problem with it is that if you want to use 2 xbox's with it simultaneously then you end up with a Moderate NAT rather than Open NAT which means you sometimes get conflicts on Live - which means no multiplayer games or no voice. But with one Xbox it's ok - and you can use as many PCs in parallel without affecting Open-ness of NAT.
Basically Open NAT is good for Live. anything else is bad.
I think Rigid managed to find a router that allows Open NAT with 2 Xbox'es. it was a Linksys if I recall - but don't remember exact model.
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Post by Acksaw on Sept 10, 2008 18:52:45 GMT
I use a Netgear DG834GT and am running 2 Xbox 360's on it, my Xbox is close to the router so is wired, the lads Xbox is connected via a Belkin wireless gaming adapter - £30 new from ebay. Both Xboxes are on open NAT. Also we have our laptop wirelessly connected and the lads PC via a wireless USB adapter, all WPA encrypted (stops folk nicking your bandwidth and spying on your surfing).
You need to get a router that supports UPnP (universal plug and play) as I understand this works better with Xbox Live and NAT settings.
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Post by donkihoti on Sept 11, 2008 5:19:19 GMT
I use a D-LINK adsl2 wired router which has my 360 & two laptops running on it with no problems .suggest you give it a go as it is plug 'n' play. no fiddling with NAT settings as it does it for you.amazon stocks them for about £30 quid.Hope this helps.................
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2008 7:17:29 GMT
I have 2 boxes .......mine wired as it is close,and the boys is wireless as his is upstairs.....both run ok. I have an aol supplied netgear wireles router with 4 sockets in the back. We even had 3 wired and 1 wireless on it doing a mini lan and all worked well with no probs. We was even able to use headsets to hear the boy upstairs.....Model DG834g.
The only prob i had was when the connection settings seemed to change "on their own " but saught help from aol and all was well again and the nat went back to open again.
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Post by Lizziekins on Sept 11, 2008 8:03:02 GMT
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Post by skyshadow5 on Sept 11, 2008 8:42:44 GMT
You should find that *most* modern routers are also gateways hence their description as gateway/routers which means you don't also have to have a broadband modem in line as well. You have the telephone line from wall socket to gateway/router, then ethernet cable from g/r to xbox360 and another to PC. The g/r will come with instructions and to set up your router so that it acts as the modem you will need to fill in some settings. Before doing any of this, go to the homepage of your broadband supplier and search their help for the settings that need to be entered into your router to allow it to act as the modem (gateway). At the moment I'm with Orange (formerly Wannado formerly Freeserve) and when I first saw what settings needed to be filled in I was like "what the hell is that!?!", but having gone to the Orange website and searched their help section beforehand, I printed off all the settings that would need to be entered into a router and it all works fine.
Just as a side point, it might be worthwhile going to the Microsoft knowledgebase and searching for Xbox Live compatible routers, those that have been certified as working correctly with Live, as that way you should also avoid any potential conflicts 'cos MS have tested them and certified them as ok.
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Post by donkihoti on Sept 11, 2008 9:45:12 GMT
Hi lizzikins,the D-LINK one is the simplest and best value for money.simply take your old modem out and connect your phone line to the d-link router.connect ether cable to the router ,then to the pc and there you go. .you get a drop down menu fom which you select your ISP and the router configures itself.all you need to do next is plug ur 360 and awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay you go.any probs send me a msg.good luck
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Post by Lizziekins on Sept 11, 2008 10:33:03 GMT
OK I've ordered the D-LINK. Expect many newbish messages Donkihoti |
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Post by Maxx Reloaded on Sept 11, 2008 17:17:42 GMT
Only just picked this thread up.....plug an play is the way to go, I like my wires and my whole house is wired, supporting a 4 port router, plus 5 port hub for up stairs / any mini lans at mine. One thing to bear in mind with any router is the MTU value has to be greater than (mind go's to mush) more than 1365 (  peeps?) This was the the case when I first connected to live and the mentioned on the xbox.com page.....maybe an update has removed this?? |
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Post by Maxx Reloaded on Sept 11, 2008 17:21:26 GMT
Found on M$ xbox The diagnostic link How the MTU setting can prevent you from connecting to Xbox Live Your router’s MTU (Maximum Transmission Unit) setting must be higher than 1365. If it is not, you cannot connect to Xbox Live. Memory not that bad!  support.microsoft.com/kb/840419/en-us |
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Post by Lizziekins on Sept 27, 2008 10:00:48 GMT
So after just over 2 weeks of waiting for my router to be delivered. It's arrived and I find it doesn't work with my modem type. Bugger, woe is me etc. Now got to try and get a refund  Stupid internet shopping |
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Post by Maxx Reloaded on Sept 28, 2008 9:24:29 GMT
Thats bad luck..and most frustrating too...you did plug the D-link into your phone line...you don't need your old modem...D-link is an all in one job.
A second option is to buy a Fast Ethernet switch (netgear FS605 example I use) this has to have its own separate power supply...on the plus side think of it like traffic police office, it plugs into your modem, and all other devices plug into it, and it literally controls the traffic, looks at what is active and directs to the modem.
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Post by Lizziekins on Sept 28, 2008 13:31:10 GMT
turns out I've got a cable modem so it need to plug in to that, not the phone line. Damn self-ownage.
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Post by AMadKipper on Dec 14, 2008 23:19:16 GMT
I know this thread has probably been resolved but just in case or for any future stuff I can put my two-pennies in  You should find the MTU is not longer a problem since most ISP's use 1454 minimum with most now able to run up to 1500 which is generally the upper limit. Most wireless routers are plug and go and all should support Universal Plug and Play so no favourites. If you are going wireless watch out for the Belkin N class routers currently out as the firmware contains old wifi drivers and as such sometimes drops connections (I've set up loads through work and you can get past it) |
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peeps?) This was the the case when I first connected to live and the mentioned on the xbox.com page.....maybe an update has removed this??
Stupid internet shopping
